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“Lacks self control”

  • Mrs Duncan (2nd grade)

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yourautisticlife , to ActuallyAutistic group
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I think the evidence is mounting that in some circumstances I can be rather slow to process emotions.

Sometimes it is not until the day after something happened that I get angry. During this "something" I keep a placid demeanor. This demeanor is not a strategy or a conscious decision.

Then, the next day, I realize how this very thing gives rise to emotions, often anger.

I'm wondering if it relates to alexithymia. I'm not confused about what I feel, but the feeling may get delayed.

Or maybe it is a combination of:

  • people pleasing,
  • autistic inertia,
  • alexithymia

Just thinking out lout about one of my characteristics here.

andrewhinton ,
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@yourautisticlife @actuallyautistic Just chiming in to say “same” … especially in situations where I didn’t pick up on the social cues and later realize I was being bullied or manipulated

andrewhinton , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic
FYI The Neurodivergent Conversations podcast has been doing a series on “what is autism” that I’m finding very helpful and validating. First of the series here: https://pca.st/episode/b601654c-72cc-48da-b7ab-875d30077d21

pathfinder , to actuallyadhd group
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@actuallyautistic
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After joining a post by Niamh Garvey (hopefully a successful link to it below) about whether she had adhd as well as autism, I have spent the last couple of days contemplating this idea for myself as well.

I am still not entirely convinced, but I am beginning to suspect that I might well be in this situation as well. After watching a number of YouTube videos from those with both autism and adhd and reading up on adhd, I can see a number of things that point on that direction certainly, although I'm not entirely convinced.

I have always been aware of the near overwhelming urge to either interrupt people, because there is something I want to say and if I don't then, then I know there is a more than a reasonable chance that I will forget what it was. I also have a tendency to want to finish people's sentences. Both of these things though I have taught myself to resist. Even though I feel a great deal of discomfort doing so. I am also more than aware that I can forget what I was saying, or thinking, halfway through a sentence. That digging through the trash to find the package with the instructions on, that I only just threw away after reading, is not uncommon. As is failing completely to understand or remember the instructions someone just gave me.

But then, my short term (working) memory is basically non-existent. But, I'm also aware that this is a fairly common problem for autistics and even before I realised I was autistic, I built up systems to help myself deal with this. As well as with my general forgetfulness. Lists, memory aids, even making the route out of my flat a trip hazard to make sure I don't forget to take something with me. Also, I live alone and essentially there is a place for everything and everything has its place. Not foolproof and I have lost things in a very small flat that I still haven't found. But generally speaking effective.

I struggle to start tasks, especially tasks that I have no real interest, or desire to do. Being interested in something has always been my main motivator. But eventually, I can normally force myself and work my way through things, especially if I know they are necessary. Knowing I have this problem is also why I hate leaving things to the last moment. I know that I am more than capable of doing that if I allow myself, but also that the stress from doing so is nearly overwhelming, even if it can be motivational. As is the stress of clutter. Not the organised clutter that is my flat, where I know where everything is, as in somewhere in that pile over there, but the clutter that builds up eventually and begins to feel as if it is out of control.

Novelty is a factor in my life. Or, boredom, rather. Because sooner, although far more likely later, I will grow bored with routines, or things like safe foods, and need to change them. Many of my interests also seem to suffer from a similar threshold. A certain point where I lose interest and no longer feel any need to maintain them, even though this might make me feel guilty about giving up on them. In fact, I hate boredom and I have always needed a certain amount of new things to watch, or discover and to be actively doing stuff, if only in my head. And whilst I have never thought of myself as being particularly spontaneous or impulsive. I am, within certain limits of self-control. There is a rationality that often has to be appeased that gives me a sense of control. I have also taken stupid risks and great risks. But rarely beyond what I knew was necessary, or to my mind, at least, controlled to a point.

I can be easily distracted, by random thoughts or by, (well obviously not squirrels, I mean who would be? but, oh, oh, there's a butterfly) things. But not always to the point that I'm not at least marginally still aware of what I should be paying attention to. Letting myself wander whilst maintaining at least a marginal awareness is an old trick of mine. I have always been a fidgeter, but that's also how I maintained concentration. Feeling the overwhelming need to move, has always seemed to me to be anxiety driven, or is the way I focus and think. In fact, movement for me has always been as much about settling and regulating myself, as it has been compulsive.

As I said, there are certain things that seem to fit, even if they also seem to have been effected and possibly modified by my autism. I would love to hear your thoughts.

https://beige.party/@niamhgarvey@mastodon.ie/112390279791932822#

andrewhinton ,
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@miaoue @actuallyautistic @Zumbador @pathfinder @actuallyadhd In my mental model, it’s just a big hairball of “neurodivergence” where some strands have been prematurely identified & classified as X or Y … but it’s all the same big tangled hairball, it just expresses itself in nearly infinite permutations.

andrewhinton ,
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@miaoue @actuallyautistic @Zumbador @pathfinder @actuallyadhd I do think it is helpful to have a schema of the various categories of differences because we need ways to talk about the specifics … we just shouldn’t assume the categories we make for various kinds of strands are intrinsic to the hairball itself (apologies for the hairy metaphor)

pathfinder , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic

Much to my shock I realised that I could be autistic when I was 53, roughly 7 years ago. And it was a shock, even though I suspect a very small, well hidden and very much ignored part of me, might have suspected. No one told me about it, or suggested that it might be the case. I did not see myself in relatives, the way so many of us do. I just happened to come across an autism test online and for no particular reason, took it.

It was that, that started me on my path to realising and finally accepting the truth that I was autistic. But, looking back, I sometimes find it hard to understand how I didn't know earlier. So much of my life now, just screams autism at me. But even ignoring the horribly ableist and medieval view I had of what autism was, the main reason why I didn't was probably because I could mask, both from myself and others, so well.

It was, I realise now, a life lived in denial. A denial of how much things bothered me, how much effort I had to put into things. Even a denial of the things I knew I couldn't do. Because this is the thing about appearing to mask so well, for so long. It is, in a sense, a lie. I couldn't mask well, if at all. Not all the time. Not in all situations or circumstances. There were things I just couldn't cope with, or even begin to deal with. But the trick was, that I either knew about them, or learnt the hard way about them and then I could manage my life to avoid them. Because they were things I could live without, without affecting how I appeared to be coping. Things that didn't affect the way I lived, even if they did affect my sense of worth. Because, how broken did you have to be, not to be able to go to crowded events, like a sports match, or a concert? Or to be able to deal with the socialising of a large gathering, or a family event, without having to hide in the kitchen, or forever outside, or break down in a toilet?

It was all part of how I masked myself from myself. The internal masking, as I like to call it. If I couldn't cope, then I was broken. If I couldn't stand something, then I was too picky, or sensitive, or I simply needed to learn to ignore it. And somehow I did learn. I learnt how to cope with noise and smell and visual overwhelm. I learnt to not let things bother me. To a point at least. There was always a step too far, when I couldn't, or didn't have the energy any more to maintain it. And this did take energy, a lot of it. Something I've only realising now that I don't have the energy to spare to even try it. Or the ability to, in many respects now that I know what I was trying so desperately to hide from.

Because when the truth is known, it's far harder to deny it. It's far harder to live the life where appearing to cope, is as good as coping. Where blaming yourself, is easier than seeing others faults. Where ignoring the pain, makes the pain go away. It's hard to see the mask as a benefit and always a good thing, rather than the shield and tool it always was.


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niamhgarvey , to actuallyadhd group
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Doctor suggested I have but I don't think I do because:
I am able to force myself to do things even if I'm not interested in it.
I do not like spontaneity.
When I have a deadline, I cannot leave it to the last minute or anxiety would cripple me.
But I do struggle to pay attention unless am hyperfocused. And I do have executive function challenges. And I have to have a project. And I crave dopamine hits.

Anyone else similar to that?
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andrewhinton ,
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@niamhgarvey @actuallyautistic @janisf @woozle @pathfinder @dyani @Zumbador @miffyhelen @actuallyadhd I love long drives especially at night (which feels like a heavy blanket for my brain) … just getting to listen to whatever I want, no other distractions except the occasional stop … lovely)

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@niamhgarvey @pathfinder @Zumbador @miffyhelen @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd The binary-gender categorization of adhd & autism symptoms has been so much more destructive than it has been helpful

pathfinder , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic

No matter how well I learnt to mask, no matter how well I learnt to get on with people, if not in any deep and meaningful way, at least superficially. There has always been one skill that I have never mastered and that is simply the ability to not upset people and especially without having the slightest idea how.

Or that I didn't for a long time, anyway. It was only when I realised that I was autistic and that the way I looked at the world was in some ways substantively different from the way many allistics looked at the world, that I began to understand something. Allistics tend to find validation externally, through feedback from the group or the part of society that they identify with, whereas autistics tend to find it within themselves, in their own reason and sense of worth and value.

Now I must stress that in many respects this is a generalisation and obviously there will be a lot of variation and degree in how true this is. But in its more extreme forms, it could very well explain many of the experiences and difficulties that I've had.

Because if someone's self-worth, the value they see in their life and actions, is almost entirely based on their interactions with the dynamics of the group they identify with, or the society they live within and not from their own judgement, then this could lead to certain choices and reactions that are quite frankly alien to someone like me and that I could easily end up in conflict with and all without really trying to.

For example, if the value of a child reflects back on its parents. Then in the extreme case the values and behaviour expected from that child, are not those of the child, but of the parents in terms of the group the child is meant to be representing them in and how well it is doing that. So any sense of divergence from that or criticism of that child, no matter how slight that might be, could easily be seen as an attack on the parents and reacted to accordingly, irrespective of how reasonable or just it was.

Equally, of course, worth, praise, or rewards, can also become divorced from any sense of reality. All that matters is that you, whether that's through your children or not, are being valued, not whether there is any justice to it. Because the truth or validity of it, is not based on how you see yourself, but only on how others see you. And in the extreme case, it doesn't even matter how they came to this view, as long as they have it. So worth can become something to be manipulated and played for and how you really are and how you actually feel about yourself becomes almost irrelevant to this process.

That people could even be this way, that everything could become how you're being perceived and anything that effects that negatively can be something to be attacked, is still something that I struggle to understand. It is so foreign to my nature. But, it certainly explains so many of the times that I've upset people, because I wasn't playing this game, or seeing the world the way I should and didn't even realise it.


andrewhinton ,
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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic It explains a hell of a lot actually - like politics & public health the last 4-8 years …

alexisbushnell , to Random
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Just watched the Autism From The Inside video about the SciShow episode.

Really great response video IMO. I've sent it as a reply to the We're Here email list too in the hopes it does make its way to the SciShow team and folks are listened to.

Video is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bYPdc2cT-E

andrewhinton ,
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@Tooden @alison @alexisbushnell @actuallyautistic Authoritarian reconditioning to fit a fictional ideal is bad for everyone, but I suppose it’s especially bad on autists

LehtoriTuomo , to ActuallyAutistic group Finnish
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My previous actually autistic posts gave me some excellent answers and furthered my processing a lot. Thanks to everyone involved! 💜

I self-diagnosed very late. Some big reasons have been a) not having certain stereotypical qualities such as aversion of eye contact, and b) scoring between NT and autistic in many online tests. Interestingly, the realization that I'm autistic wasn't that big identity-wise. I've understood I have certain qualities ages ago. Instead of a change in my identity, it's been a big relief to understand why I'm this and that.

There's still lots to process though. I'm only now coming to grips with how my memory works, for instance.

Ordered two books on autism, Neurotribes and the Devon Price book. Really looking forward to reading those.

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andrewhinton ,
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@BernieDoesIt @actuallyautistic @LehtoriTuomo I’m have not. And I’m still not sure if my experience fits. But I did just remember that when I saw that Travolta movie about the boy in the bubble as a kid, it felt weirdly familiar

dorgaldir , to ActuallyAutistic group Dutch
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I feel this so hard. Why can't people just be clear about what they want?
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andrewhinton ,
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@dorgaldir @actuallyautistic My biggest problem with tests in school was interpreting the damn questions (& multiple choice answers) in the way they were supposedly intended vs the infinite permutations of nuance & “but what if instead” logics swirling in my cranium

andrewhinton ,
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@twan @actuallyautistic @encthenet @miss__Tery @dorgaldir Even if the whole week of class had been about how to read an analog clock — which would’ve made the context for the question obvious to most — it makes more sense to praise the kid for creative, lateral thinking, but give them a chance to provide the right answer with an analog clock face.

SaySimonSay , to ActuallyAutistic group
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It's a few years ago but I still remember it vividly. My partner and I wanted to have dinner at an Indian restaurant in a small town in France. We both don't drink alcohol, so when it came to ordering drinks, we both went for a childhood favourite: menthe à l'eau and grenadine à l'eau, which is just syrup mixed with water. The waiter looked puzzled, then smiled, but didn't say a word.

Many of us are not keen on 'adulting' when it comes to tax returns and forms and contracts and all that jazz – but I've never even been keen on the parts of 'adulting' that others were excited about in their teens. I basically still have a childish taste.

I don't drink coffee. I don't drink wine, beer or any other type of alcohol. (Never even tried, it smells horrible to me.) I don't smoke or use any other drugs. (Same.) To be honest, I don't even like dark chocolate 🙈

My taste has certainly evolved since I've been a child, but it doesn't include anything that is only suitable for adults.

Sounds familiar?

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lifewithtrees , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Question for the @actuallyadhd and potentially @actuallyautistic

I am someone who gets migraines and have since I was 8. The reason was never uncovered, but I know migraines are more common among neuroduvergent folks like myself.

My question for you is this:

When you have pain, what do you do to help manage it so your emotional regulation goes out the window?

In short, I can be mean when I am in the midst of migraine.

I want to do better.

Any advice?

andrewhinton ,
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@lifewithtrees @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd Migraines can literally change your personality temporarily. Once I read that in a medical article, it framed what was going on with my chronic-migraine-suffering loved one, and why they seemed like a different person during an attack (including the ramp up and down). Helped me understand it much better (even though it still catches me off guard)

JeremyMallin , to ActuallyAutistic group
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If you know, you know.

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andrewhinton ,
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@JeremyMallin @actuallyautistic Finger primed and ready

autism101 , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Do you need routines but actually dislike them at the same time?

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theautisticcoach , to DisabilityJustice group
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Ableism in society isn't just an oversight - it's a pervasive societal issue that diminishes the value of disabled humans.

Recognizing this is the first step toward meaningful change.

How have you encountered or challenged ableism in your daily life?

@actuallyautistic @disabilityjustice

andrewhinton ,
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@Susan60 @theautisticcoach @actuallyautistic @disabilityjustice I’m recognizing it as a big deal for me too. It’s kept me from valuing & nurturing parts of myself I learned to despise & feel disgusted by & ashamed of (and it’s projected that feeling onto others with whom I could’ve maybe been friends)

hosford42 , to neurodivergence group
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Requirements to put in a job description to discourage or filter out autistic people:

  • Comfortable with ambiguity
  • Strong people skills
  • Good culture fit
  • Multitasking
  • A fast-paced dynamic environment
  • Bachelor's degree or better

I see these things and think you don't want my >30 years of programming and machine learning experience, or my problem-solving skills and comprehensive knowledge that had people mistaking me for one of the team's PhDs, or my solutions that have proven patent-worthy. Your loss.


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andrewhinton ,
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@hosford42 @polotek @actuallyautistic @neurodivergence These phrases can have multiple meanings depending on the workplace. “Comfort with ambiguity” might just be needed because the domain of the work is inherently ambiguous, but maybe the team has very healthy ways of handling that. Vs another place where they can’t ever plan or define work clearly & leadership has capricious demands & you’re just left to figure shit out on your own.

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@hosford42 @polotek @actuallyautistic @neurodivergence Yes it can definitely depend on the team or department or partners you work with

andrewhinton ,
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@hosford42 @wakame @fishidwardrobe @dpnash @actuallyautistic @neurodivergence People too often read the manifesto as “Not X but Y” when really it’s “Value X over Y by using Y in service of X”

pathfinder , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic

As a late-realised autistic, one of the things that I have to keep dealing with is imposter syndrome. It dogs my footsteps constantly, waiting always to leap out and trip me up. In this, I doubt that I am the only one. But, in some unique ways, those of us late to the party may be particularly prone to it.

I can only go from my own case, but I think that it comes from a combination of things.

Firstly, I have not been officially diagnosed. The element of doubt that this can bring is, of course, why many of us go on to seek a diagnosis. But, it also means that I never was. I wasn't "spotted" as a child. In fact, I have never even had anyone suggest it to me as a possibility. I had to find this out on my own, through my own research and determination. So, of course, there is always the option that I could be wrong and in large part, because I was missed. Of course, I had left university before the concept of "high-functioning" or "Asperger's" had really become known, or something even to be aware of; especially here in the UK. But, that doesn't mean that autism wasn't being diagnosed, or recognised by professionals. So the fact that I had slid by unnoticed carries with it the option that it was because there was never anything there to spot in the first place.

There is also the very life that I have managed to live because of that. This may seem like a strange thing to say. But, the fact is that I have worked, lived alone, done many things and experienced much that could only be considered normal and which I might not have if I had known I was autistic. It's easy to look at that and second guess myself. Even if that means forgetting, or minimalising, all the effort I had to put in to achieving it. All the ways I learnt to cope and get around my difficulties. Even how much of my life and choices were carefully shaped to totally avoid the things I couldn't do, or which would shatter me completely if I tried. But perhaps only because of my failings, that my inability to cope fully was only ever because of my flaws and never anything else.

That this was always what I was masking from myself. That it is the reason why I find it so difficult to separate the mask from myself now. Because I don't want to see the flaw, rather than reveal the autism. The autism that seems so much less than others. It's easy to see the aspects of being autistic that I don't relate to and understand that it is the nature of the spectrum. But, it's harder to see the aspects that I do, but never as badly as others seem to. That even the things that seem so much worse for me now, may only be that way because I'm expecting them to be.

In fact, it is always in reading the words and seeing the lives that others have had and are having, that the imposter syndrome bites the hardest. Compared to so many, I have had a life of ease and privilege. I have had it so easy that of course I have to doubt. Who am I to compare myself to them? Who am I to even begin to say that we are similar? In fact, I see so much room for doubt. There is a whole life to look back on. A whole history that in so many ways seems so much at odds. Especially considering that it is a history, as much as anything, of having deceived and hidden truth from myself.

So, will I ever be free of imposter syndrome? No, I sincerely doubt it. Even if I were to feel the mad desire to get an official diagnosis and could overlook my distrust of doctors and the systematic faults with it. Even if I could crush all my niggling fears and concerns and come to believe in myself with every atom of my body and aspect of my soul. Because, beyond anything else, doubt is logical. To the rational mind, not having a reasonable doubt, even about the most certain of things, is itself fundamentally irrational.

So, I can't help thinking that I'm kind of stuck with it. But, the real question is, whether I allow that to come to dominate me. What I really know now and see so very clearly.


andrewhinton ,
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@GTMLosAngeles @pathfinder @actuallyautistic excellent idea — thanks for this

catswhocode , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd Been rewatching The Magicians Season 1, and I suddenly feel like the magic users are the neurodifferent people and everyone else is neurotypical! :blobfoxlaugh: maybe I'm onto something

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@EVDHmn @catswhocode @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd Oh they’re happy to take our money — they just don’t love dealing with our quirks as employees 😁

VeryLateDiag , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Hi. I haven't been on social media for the past year or so. (Mental health: very not good.)

But yesterday I had the final part of my autism assessment, and the official verdict is that I am .

It's a relief, but it feels a bit weird. I guess 50+ years of bafflement and self-loathing don't just go away overnight. But I made a bargain with the universe that I'd try to give living as my real self a go if the diagnosis was autism.

Just need to find out who/what my 'real self' is.


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andrewhinton ,
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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic @VeryLateDiag It’s quite the club — still not sure how I feel about it, as someone who usually feels uncomfortable about joining clubs 🙃

ImmedicableME , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Just shared two major lists of autism traits in females with someone who is wondering if they’re autistic and crying as I reread all of the things that led to me pursuing an autism diagnosis at age 48, you know, as one does. These lists literally changed my life.


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https://the-art-of-autism.com/females-and-aspergers-a-checklist/?subscribe=success#subscribe-blog-blog_subscription-2

https://taniaannmarshall.wpcomstaging.com/2013/03/22/moving-towards-a-female-profile-the-unique-characteristics-abilities-and-talents-of-young-girls-with-asperger-syndrome/?amp=1

andrewhinton ,
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@yourautisticlife @actuallyautistic @ImmedicableME Same here — the gender binary on these models is a vestigial artifact of our very old cultural frames & not really an intrinsic aspect of any of this.
Would be better to detach from any binary completely, but so much clinical & academic work for a couple generations has relied on it, it’ll take a long time to change, I suspect.

Dr_Obvious , to ActuallyAutistic group German

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If you lived in the 90s there is small chance you never stumbled over the magic eye. These pictures of grainy shapes and colors and if you stare the right way you see something in 3D.

andrewhinton ,
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@Dr_Obvious @actuallyautistic Going through this very “Sixth Sense omg I was a ghost the whole time” experience over the last month or so. 🤯

mighty_orbot , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Why do neurotypicals get mad if I don’t ask them how they’re doing, when the whole reason I don’t ask is because they consistently volunteer the information anyway?

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@dyani @actuallyautistic @Zumbador @mighty_orbot I have burned myself too many times this way. Especially given that, in situations where I’m feeling stressed or anxious about the social interaction, my brain wants to jump into “special-relationship overshare mode” as a shortcut to feeling safe with the other person/s.
(There’s a lot of C-PTSD triggering & feeding that reflex too)

GottaLaff , to Random
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1/… As expected

And it was UNANIMOUS

Supreme Court rules Trump cannot be kicked off Colorado ballot https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-rules-trump-cannot-kicked-colorado-ballot-rcna132291

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@GottaLaff @lisamelton Unanimous but the liberal minority dissented as to rationale

theautisticcoach , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Do my #ActuallyAutistic over or under estimate their abilities to “function”?

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andrewhinton ,
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@gannet @actuallyautistic @tine_schreibt sounds like something our brains would want us to think 😅

catswhocode , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic Hey all! I'm just curious, what kind of stims do you do, if any? I tap, sing, and play with stim toys (I have a squishy ball and some stuffed animals). I only recently learned that this was stimming but I've done it all my life, afaik.

andrewhinton ,
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@catswhocode @n69n @GreenRoc @actuallyautistic Wow when I took my first typing course in high school I found myself typing in my brain all the time, usually random words as I was hearing them around me or in my head. Did that for at least a year. But looking back it felt like other stimming behaviors I’ve had.

andrewhinton ,
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@catswhocode @actuallyautistic I snap fingers on both hands simultaneously when trying to remember where something is or what I am doing / where I’m going

I tap out rhythms to songs in my head using my teeth (mouth closed) - of course TMJ is rampant

PenguinBlue , to actuallyadhd group
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I've been sleeping badly this week, waking up thinking about work at 3 in the morning unable to get to sleep for hours. I only this morning connected it to a meeting at work that I am worried about.

I came in this morning to find the other person had to cancel and wants to rearrange for next week. Looks like I get another week of this, then...

Can anyone relate?

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@hosford42 @actuallyautistic @PenguinBlue @actuallyadhd My extreme avoidance of ppl who bully me (or whom my brain perceives that way) is a general pattern in my life but especially in the workplace. I never understood why it controls my conduct so strongly even when my conscious intent is to overcome it & engage. C-PTSD (from my childhood) explains it somewhat, but the “raw nervous system” that comes with “ASD” fills an explanatory gap for me

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@aaronesilvers @Dr_Obvious @actuallyautistic I’ve come to believe at least half of the actual labor that happens in corporate life is “neurotypical behavior performance” where NTs put a lot of energy into reassuring everyone around them, especially bosses, that they are “normal” & not a thorn in the side or stone in the shoe, that their habits & tastes & mental models conform to the “norm”. Often to the point of ignoring the actual content & impact of the work itself.

dyani , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Yesterday I had an epiphany: I absolutely identify with PDA.

I hadn't really looked into PDA very deeply, until I came across someone explaining their experience that resonated (v loudly) w me!

This person explained they have big goals and dreams but the thought of actually doing them seems so painful and like the worst possible thing they could do. I feel that way too. It's like PDA poisons my desires.

What does PDA feel like to you?

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andrewhinton ,
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@CynAq @niamhgarvey @marytzu @Zumbador @dyani @actuallyautistic “so I was a people pleaser workaholic who can’t actually work and people please” is perfectly phrased GOLD thank you

autism101 , to ActuallyAutistic group
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I frequently have to re-read the same paragraph over and over again before it sinks in. It is really frustrating, and makes reading a book take forever. It even happens when I’m listening to an audio book.

Do you struggle with this?

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@Dr_Obvious @actuallyautistic @autism101 I like how the folks on one of the adhd podcasts say procrastination isn’t quite the right term for us because it implies we have a choice

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@Cotopaxi @actuallyautistic @autism101 With nonfiction books I have to make marks (exclamation points, question marks, little arrows, etc) and little notes in the book as I read to help it “stick” (I wonder if this may be related to how I tend to “think aloud” to process & figure out thoughts) … anyway, reading this way still takes me forever, but I can cognitively work through a physical book much better than digital, and it helps me find important bits later

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For so long, I lived, in some respects anyway, like everyone else did and thought no more of it. I was cracking on with life, just like you were supposed to. Getting a job, or in my case running my own business, settling down in my own home. But then I finally realised that I was autistic and, as I once described it, "it was suddenly as if all the defences I didn't even know I had, just crumbled and fell."

In a sense, when this happened, it didn't show me anything new. I had always known that really loud sounds bothered me, for example. That most live music and I, really didn't get on. That loud TV's irritated me, that crowded places were a little bit too much. But what it did show me was how much these things bothered me in general and not just in excess. How even walking down a street was stressful and anxious. How even low levels built up, until they threatened to become too much.

The ability to self-mask this from myself, is what I lost when I finally realised that I was autistic. A form of denial, or perhaps more accurately disassociation (thank you @arcana for pointing this out.) that I had unconsciously developed. No doubt in part due to the general denial of my reality from society and the experience of growing up in that. A way of dealing with the pain and trauma that came from it, that no one else could see or accept. A way of simply not feeling that pain, or even acknowledging when things were effecting me. Of making it, not exist. Even though the effects were still there, building up until some final straw caused them to burst and then got all the blame for its trouble.

It wasn't that these things suddenly got worse when I realised I was autistic, even though it felt that way. Neither did the realisation make them suddenly appear. What it did, was make it no longer possible for me to disassociate from them. To wall myself away from even being aware of what was going on and the reality of it. Because I finally understood and in doing so, I could no longer hide from myself.


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@pathfinder @actuallyautistic @arcana This 100% describes what I am experiencing lately. Hell of a ride.

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@silhuang @actuallyautistic @pathfinder @arcana I have been in therapy off and on for many years but just started with a neurodivergen(ce/t) therapist and in just my 2nd session found myself being very nonlinear & longwinded (decades of context!), mask just skipped right the hell off, and she didn’t stop me to make me straighten it out once. It was weirdly liberating but very uncomfortable — I kept stopping / policing myself, apologizing

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What being is like.
I decided to make miso-glazed eggplants for dinner. I usually make them with some sesame seeds. This time when I was almost done, I couldn’t find the sesame. I know I have at least two different packs somewhere. I found none on my seeds shelf, I wasn’t able to find any from the first try in my a bit too well-stocked pantry cabinets. So I got upset, finished making them as is, and don’t want them for dinner anymore, and am now cooking eggplants with za’atar

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@olena @actuallyautistic I’m learning my ADHD really screws up my brain’s desire to pursue special interests — it rarely lets me dig as deep or for as long as I’d like, because it gets bored & starts noticing other potential contenders for special-interest status … makes me something of a non-consensual dilettante

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andrewhinton ,
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@sebwhatever @actuallyautistic I keep not finishing Tears of the Kingdom because I want to just keep running around doing stuff — been playing it fairly consistently since May last year when it was released

ScribblingOn , to ActuallyAutistic group
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Anyone else feel weird when they’re NOT constantly anxious about something? When things are relatively okay and you don’t feel like you’re drowning?

It’s such a weird feeling that my mind and body are a bit thrown and dunno what to do with themselves???

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@ScribblingOn @actuallyautistic When my body is “wanting” to feel anxious, my brain just makes up stuff to worry about or exaggerates stuff that’s not really a big deal … sometimes it’s just “you should be anxious about the lack of bad things because something’s coming eventually!”

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i'm grateful for a therapist who respects my wish to avoid any bs wrt ... helping coach me to figure out my own sense of boundaries, develop the ability to articulate my own wants and needs.

I've been in solitude for the first time in a bit as I wrap up things in philly this week, and while i'm super tired of living out of a suitcase and treading water life-wise for even longer… i'm not lonely; just that weird restless/exhausted @actuallyautistic

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@actuallyautistic

One of the final things my mother ever said to me was,
"You'll cope, because you've always coped."
At the time, I wanted to scream. Because I wasn't coping, I really wasn't. Not with the two years of her journey to get to that point. Not with the toll it had taken on me. Not with how I was feeling, or the grief I was holding in check. In fact, it felt as if I was as far away from coping as it was possible to be and still be able to be in that hospice room with her.

And yet from her point of view I had always coped, I was coping even on that day. I had been the one to get her to all her appointments and treatments and be there with her, helping her get through them and the hard questions she had to face. All the scans, the chemo, the operations. The choices that she had to make, when the truth finally became clear. I had never let her down, even through all the early mornings and even the struggle of having to take time off work. Just like I always had. I had always been there for her, always dependable. She may not have always agreed with all my choices in life, but she could see them working, she could always see me coping.

It occurs to me now, that this is how many may have seen me over the years. As someone who could always be relied upon, who was good at things. Who wouldn't fluster or panic. Someone who could be relied on. Even something of an authority. That it was how I was seen by my friends at school, even though I was by far the youngest of them. How I was even seen by their parents, when I would get it in the neck because of the trouble one of them had gotten into, despite it having nothing to do with me. How I was seen at University, as much by the lecturers as anyone. Why, in part, so many trusted me to teach their children how to drive. Why I was considered a good choice and a safe pair of hands.

And yet, in so many ways, I've never really coped. How can someone who could barely keep his flat clean, or keep himself fed, be said to be coping? How can someone who has gone through so much of his life, oblivious to what was going on, to whether he was even close to doing things right or not. Who expected at any moment to be called out for the fraud he was. Who was terrified by virtually everything he had ever tried to do, who doubted that he would ever get anything right. Who barely knew his own family and for whom true friendship was a distant dream, be said to be coping?

Because I didn't have a choice. How else was I supposed to live. There was nothing I could have said or done. Nowhere I could have gone. Even I didn't understand what was going on, so how was anyone else supposed to have? As far as I was concerned, this was how you got on with life. You dug deep and carried on regardless. It didn't matter that you had to soak up all the trauma and pain like a sponge to carry on. It didn't matter that you didn't have a clue and were making it up as you went along. That you thought of yourself as a failure because of all the things you couldn't manage or do. As long as you could do the things that others valued. Because, surely, that was just the way it was.

And so effort and energy was expanded, that shouldn't have been. Other people's needs and work was prioritised, when it shouldn't have been. Trauma and pain was absorbed and buried deep. Because it was the only way. The only way to keep going, the only way to exist. The price paid for not knowing who and what I was. Of only ever seeing value from others and never from myself. The price I paid for coping, because what else was I supposed to have done? Of not being able to see any other way.

A way that has cost me so much. That has left so many scars and so much still to deal with. That took so much from me, in terms of energy and effort and will, just to continue. Is it any wonder then, that as so many of us age, burnout seems almost inevitable. That early death seems a real possibility. Because the life we've had has been so much harder than it ever needed to be, or should have been. And all just to cope.


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@arisummerland @pathfinder @actuallyautistic Totally just bookmarked this thread as a reference — feeling all of this. Thanks for saying it aloud.

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Hung out with a friend yesterday and he was able—ON THE SPOT—to ACCURATELY estimate how much time it would take us to go to thrift stores and eat lunch.

My brain: WHAT MAGIC IS THIS?!?



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@EmilyMoranBarwick @roknrol @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd Same — and I seriously hit a wall a few years ago, not even realizing I had hit it — been spending the last couple years just embedded in the wall, trying to scrape my way through it, only to learn recently how much the masking paradigm explains my life… but I’m thankful to finally have a framework for understand wtf is going on

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@EmilyMoranBarwick @roknrol @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd I miss the “highly successful” times — so much of my identity has been wrapped up in my (a)vocational interests & community of practice — now that I just don’t have it in me anymore, it’s disorienting, bewildering even.

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@EmilyMoranBarwick @roknrol @actuallyautistic @actuallyadhd Yep yep I’m feeling that too — like now that I have this mental model, it’s like my body (including brain cuz duh) can tell me more clearly what it’s feeling and where. I have resorted to being aggressively cozy as much as possible just to give my nervous system some space to heal & to trust me again… if that makes sense?

PenguinBlue , to ActuallyAutistic group
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I've always wanted to do a PhD and, following my diagnosis, autism has become a spacial interest. Also, given I now know about my , hopefully this academic process will be less stressful than the previous ones.

While researching PhDs I came across the Autism Research Centre, which sounds like a great option.

My eligibility notwithstanding (it's the University of Cambridge so I doubt I'll be accepted, but hey, it's worth a try), I started to look at the research they are currently doing to get an idea of what my research might be and one area of study is the impact of isolation of autistic people.

This got me wondering about isolation in our community and particularly the opposite, when there are too many people around and the impact of that on our mental health. I can't do too much socialising without time to myself even in situations where I know I don't need to mask or act neurotypical. People just take it out of me.

This has now got me to the topic of the importance of understanding from others to the mental health of autistic people. I find it interesting (though not so surprising) that so much of the research seems to be about how the mental health of autistic people is impacted due to our perceived defects, rather than the focus being on the impact of the outside world on us.

People have always told me that I'm straight to the point/rude when I speak so maybe it makes sense I'd like to look at how society impacts autistic mental health. Maybe "It's not my issue it's yours!" could be the headline for the article?

Now I need to hone this down to something I can actually research. Any ideas are welcome.

It also makes me wonder how many researchers in autism are actually autistic.

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@neuralex @actuallyautistic @llPK @johne @PenguinBlue I would wager a ton of standup comics are olympic-level ND maskers — it’s basically turning defense mechanisms learned as a child into a career

callunavulgaris , to ActuallyAutistic group
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@actuallyautistic Can we talk self-diagnosis? The penny dropped for me last year. I'm only mildly autistic but that's enough to have made me wonder my whole life where I go wrong with social things, why others seem to know the rules and I don't, with predictable consequences. Because I am self-diagnosed I feel I can't be open with anyone beyond immediate family, esp work, as I don't have a doctor's note to back it up and I'll be accused of jumping on a bandwagon. Familiar?

andrewhinton ,
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@callunavulgaris @joshsusser @actuallyautistic Resonating with so much of what you have in this thread

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@neurodiversity

Are you sensitive?

This was a question during my neuropsych eval on Friday. I could think of at least two ways to answer it, depending on the meaning of the word sensitive - so of course I answered both ways . It was a long answer. A lot of my answers were long.

How would you answer this (terribly vague) question?

NOTE: Also please feel free to ignore the question and rant with me about how ridiculous the assessment criteria can be.

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@GTMLosAngeles @actuallyautistic @neurodiversity Jesus they have no idea what they’re doing do they

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