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Her entire argument is an appeal to morality. "Gay is bad because it's immoral." So when she is then engaging in this 'immoral' activity it is relevant: "Even you don't believe it's actually immoral, which is your entire argument."

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If they are making bad policy, then focus on that because it’s bad

People are and have been.

Not because the individual doesn’t actually follow it

When the individual is ignoring any arguments on the basis of an Appeal to Authority "Everyone knows this is wrong" then it's valid to point out "Then why are you doing it?"

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If you say it’s bad to kill people, then kill someone, I'm not going to put you in charge of a group with the express purpose of preventing people getting killed. If you found such a group I am going to question their ethics.

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None of this is an argument for Homosexuality being wrong or right. If people were saying "she's having sex with women so sex with women must be okay" then it would be a tu quoque fallacy.

People are pointing out that shes a huge fucking hypocrite. Hypocrisy by itself isn't an argument for or against anything, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth calling out.

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People are attacking her for having bisexual threesoms

People are attacking her for being a hypocrite. "Rules for thee and not for me" is worth pointing out.

CileTheSane ,
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Just post the laws from Leviticus right next to them to make it clear nobody follows this.

CileTheSane ,
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People are better informed.

Are you upset that people are protesting now? Sure, they should have been protesting before but unless you have a time machine there's nothing we can do about that.

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That's unfortunate that it's not a genre you personally are interested in, but it is a popular genre and Valve is a business. Just because it's not to your tastes doesn't mean it's a waste of their talent.

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Not even Blizzard is coming out unscathed from Overwatch 2.

Overwatch 2 didn't fall because it's a hero shooter

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this is where you say "It failed because...."

Gestures broadly

Not really my responsibility to make an argument for you. Of all the reasons Overwatch 2 might not have performed well, it being a Hero Shooter doesn't have any strong evidence and you didn't provide anything showing that was the reason.

One could argue Overwatch 2 being a Hero Shooter is why it didn't perform worse than it already has, given its problems.

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  1. Blizzard is bad at balancing the game - could be true of any game, doesn't have to be a shooter

  2. Blizzard cancels promised mode - Blizzard being bad at design and following through on promises.

  3. See 1.

  4. Forcing a game to become the sequel, not making meaningful changes other than monetization

  5. See 1

  6. Blizzard made a bad game

None of these are a result of Overwatch 2 being a shooter, and all of them are a result of Blizzard being shit at making quality games, caring about players, and following through on promises. So thank you, you have done a fantastic job demonstrating that Overwatch 2 being a shooter is not the reason it didn't perform well.

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It will achieve nothing other than the first president to

Both candidates have already been president. Or have the Democrats decided not to have Biden run again?

CileTheSane ,
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Weren't you the one complaining people don't know how to read?

Nobody in this thread is advocating not voting for Biden. The opposite in fact. People are being honest that Biden getting elected is simply treading water, Trump getting elected is sinking.

Of course you vote to not sink, but don't expect that to improve things. You then continue to do other things that will actually improve things until the next election.

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Biden has made progress that you refuse to acknowledge.

Much like how I was advocating for totalitarianism I'm sure...

Republicans Flock to Trump’s Trial, Risking Control of the House Floor ( www.nytimes.com )

"The House was in session at the Capitol on Thursday, but thanks to the latest procession of Republicans reporting for duty in front of a Manhattan criminal courthouse to show support for former President Donald J. Trump at his trial, the party risked ceding its control of the floor,” the New York Times reports....

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Stockholm Syndrome

Completely off topic: Stockholm syndrome gets its name from a hostage situation where the police seemed to show no care or concern for the hostages' safety and the captors did more to protect them than law enforcement. Of course the hostages' felt more empathy towards their captors.

According to accounts by Kristin Enmark, one of the hostages, the police were acting incompetently, with little care for the hostages' safety. This forced the hostages to negotiate for their lives and releases with the robbers on their own. In the process, the hostages saw the robbers behaving more rationally than the police negotiators and subsequently developed a deep distrust towards the latter.[9] Enmark had criticized Bejerot specifically for endangering their lives by behaving aggressively and agitating the captors. She had criticized the police for pointing guns at the convicts while the hostages were in the line of fire, and she had told news outlets that one of the captors tried to protect the hostages from being caught in the crossfire.

CileTheSane ,
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Sounds like people need to start suing the Mississippi governor every time they use a bathroom and demand a genital exam.

CileTheSane ,
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wouldn't want you to make me uncomfortable

How about sign a bill to have proper doors on stalls so no one can see you? Then it doesn't matter.

CileTheSane ,
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So the only thing stopping them from doing that now is the dress detecting force field around the bathroom?

CileTheSane ,
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We did it guys! The bar is a millimeter off the floor and we cleared it!

CileTheSane ,
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The entire point is to make their existence illegal. Then no matter what they do you can charge them with the excuse of "they shouldn't have broken the law."

CileTheSane ,
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No no, the boogey man is currently "socialism"

CileTheSane ,
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I'm saying "Some places are worse" is not an argument that "This is fine".

The point being discussed is that this is a terrible law and an example of Mississippi being a shit hole. You are just side tracking the conversation because you don't understand the function of hyperbole in speech and think talking about how "The US isn't literally the worst place to live" is somehow a helpful or useful conversation to have in light of the topic art hand.

The US has problems, and insisting that some places are worse is hardly conducive to changing any of that.

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I actually agree with you that the MS law is terrible, but trying to push back on the general sentiment of the original comment I replied to

Right: side tracking from the conversation at hand to insist hyperbole is not literal. That does not help and only serves as a distraction.

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It's still a distraction from the topic at hand. I'll also note that you don't appear to have any comments in this comment section other than "The US isn't the worst country" so what is it you think you are adding to the discussion here? Hyperbole is bad because someone might get confused?

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Yup, the allies totally lost WW2. If only they showed Hitler love instead surely he would have stopped with the genocide.

CileTheSane ,
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Well you approached me a poor attempt at an insult, so of course I'm going to be receptive to what you're trying to say... /s

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I'm just pointing out that the notion that community A or an individual can decide whether some word is a slur or not in community B is ridiculous,

As a member of group B I consider the word community a slur (purely because it is convenient for my argument to do so). Never use that word again because it is a slur and it would be ridiculous for you to say otherwise.

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Except X is only tolerating the intolerant, and not tolerating the tolerant.

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"squid" has been banned from X

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It would be like saying "it's funny when Americans say they're going to 'wear their boot', how are you going to wear part of your car?"

They are using a different definition of the word, and pretending they aren't is being wilfully ignorant at best. Pretending the other definition doesn't exist just serves to alienate people who might actually agree with you.

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'Liberal' has an actual definition with a history.

The word "awful" has an actual definition with a history too. That history starts with it meaning "full of awe"
https://www.etymonline.com/word/awful

Word usage and definitions change over time. If you know people use a word differently then you need to at least explain the definition you are using or you're just going to confuse or alienate people who understand the word differently.

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pretending like it's the only use comes off as both ill-informed and condescending.

That works both ways. Pretending the European usage of the word is the only use comes off just as ill-informed and condescending.

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I believe the picture is from Final Fantasy Tactics

CileTheSane ,
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Tomorrow he's going to complain about being "cancelled" and how he "can't say things anymore" while talking about the event where he was invited to speak in front of a college full of students.

You can say whatever you want, people don't have to listen.

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So much like "seeing a photo of fairies doesn't mean fairies are real", seeing a clip of Trump meeting Jesus doesn't mean it's real either. People need to adapt to finding out how to look into a claim more than just saying "I saw a picture so it must be true."

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I'll happily call it X because it was such a monumentally stupid idea to try to change the name, and if 'X' actually caught on it would be much worse for 'X'.

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Shy of personally running down Elon and asking him, what are you doing to do to verify this?

I'd personally suggest "Don't buy something just because there's a video of someone endorsing it."
Whether or not Elon endorsed it doesn't change if it's a good investment or not. (It's crypto, it's not)

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denouncing the protests while doing pearl clutching over property damage.

Sounds like Republicans to me.

CileTheSane ,
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If your choices are Hitler and 99% Hitler, you still do what you can to stop 100% Hitler. Less bad is less bad.

Nobody cares about your smug sense of superiority when 100% Hitler is in charge and you proudly announce "I did nothing to stop this, other than try to encourage other people to also do nothing to stop this."

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You mean the logic of "I'm not going to do anything and neither should anyone else"?

CileTheSane ,
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Considering I specifically suggested doing something is better than doing nothing, I'm going to go ahead and guess that listening to what other people are saying isn't a strength of yours.

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I understand that the people protesting are doing something. This is the first time you've actually advocated for an action.

People are fully capable of both protesting and voting to keep someone worse from doing worse things. The fact that you don't understand these basic things is truly phenomenal.

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It's the trolley problem with a single track: you can pull the lever and the trolley will run over 5 people before it stops, or you can not pull the lever and the trolley will run over 10 people.

If you're standing beside the lever with your arms crossed refusing to pull it, saying "the fault is on the person who tied the people to the track. Getting involved makes me complacent." Then yes, people are going to blame you because even if you didn't cause the problem there is something very easy you can do to make it less bad.
You can't save all 10, but you can save 5. So you do what you can, and then you also go after the guy who tied the people to the tracks.

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"anyone who disagrees with me is a racist!"

Good talk. Engaging with you is definitely worth while...

CileTheSane ,
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If your meme uses definitions of terms that are different from what people generally understand when hearing those terms, then it's not a good meme.

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