You'll note that these are the same people lawmakers accuse of allowing "marxist and critical race theory" in schools. But if you wanna arm the enemy, who am I to disagree?
In the late 80s, I lived in Bohemia, NY, in some shitty town on Long Island. I was the only asian student in the town. A teacher named Mrs. Thompson hit me multiple times while calling me racial slurs and while the vice principal watched.
Let's not really solve one problem with a whole new set of problems.
And teachers will have to purchase their own forearm and firearm training. Though knowing Tennessee, they wouldn't require any training whatsoever anyways because that state is full of braindead morons.
Tennessee has been working overtime to lose my respect in the last year. Everything they've done has been terrible.
I used to live in Tennessee. I'm not disparaging Tennesseans. I'm disparaging the people you elected. I know you probably didn't have much say in the matter (gerrymandering).
we are going to give more under-trained humans human killing devices where juvenile humans exist en masse? awesome. im sure that will go super swell.
the mere existence of a human killing device in your proximity increases your chances of being affected by a human killing device. why are we putting children in more danger?
Also glossed over every time this stupid fucking "more guns" idea is proposed: Are we going to make carrying a gun mandatory for teachers? What's the actual number of teachers who want to be armed while teaching?
The only reason this shit gets support is because it's profitable to the gun lobby. One day the kids that the pro-gun community threw under the bus will run the country and they're going to have no compassion whatsoever for the people who armed their classmates, teachers and random psychopaths who wanted their suicide to be on the news.
Why would a teacher who makes shit money want to take one the liability and responsibility of carrying a gun around school? It's either gonna be crazy teachers who volunteer for the job, or it'll be like the resource officers during school shootings who run away at the first sign of trouble
More likely is that one of them will leave it in the bathroom after having removed it to take a shit. Happens a decent amount of times with school resource officers.
That's some after the fact shit. After the commoners were already violated, because the cops won't or can't and definitely have no interest in protecting them.
How many are in prison for violence against the powerful?
If someone goes to jail for violence against me, I haven't been protected from violence. That's literally all I'm saying. Why are you putting random words in my mouth and asking me questions about that shit?
The cops ain't ever protected me from violence and are scarier to me than either the random man (the random man could be a cop, but the cop definitely is) or the bear.
You can't threaten me with violent men into not being afraid of violent men.
You can’t threaten me with violent men into not being afraid of violent men.
Right. You threaten them with violent men. Or else, you need to be violent yourself. Which you can't do because you don't own a gun and you can't fight.
In my experience, it's my brother-in-law. His testimony was an important part of a case that put 22 people in jail for actually planning an actual mass murder. Actual bad people, actual plans, actual schedules, actual gear.
He's a cop, one of a few in my family (we're more a firemen/infantry family).
If thats okay with you, I'm going to disagree with your assessment of his character.
So he hasn't been forced out or realized what he's participating in yet. It's not that hard to figure out. If he sticks around it'll become more apparent.
Or a good teacher who knows they're neither trained nor paid enough to warrant the responsibility will keep it locked up very tightly and in the panic forget the code / lose the key, and then they'll be the scapegoat after everything ends.
Or the principal when the teacher's request for more supplies and fewer students per class is met with some dismissive and insulting excuse. No one will care then, either.
The price of America's Freedom to Murder is exactly what you think: dead people.
Will they give guns to all the teachers, good and bad alike? Then I guess we will find out if the good teachers with guns can stop the bad teachers with guns.
The law is not issuing guns to teachers, it's allowing teachers to concealed carry in a school if they pass some tests and get approval from a few relevant people. The data says it's ineffective at having the intended effect (stopping school shootings) but apparently already 2/3 of states have a similar policy. Anyway, if you want to learn how to stop school shootings I suggest you read Angry White Men by Michael Kimmel.
The law is not issuing guns to teachers, it's allowing teachers to concealed carry in a school if they pass some tests and get approval from a few relevant people
So in other words, the gun laws teachers are subject to may actually be effective for stopping dangerous and negligent people from owning a firearm but we can't apply similar policies to the public because it would inconvenience reactionaries and weapon manufacturers.
This law has nothing to do with owning a firearm. It is only about who can concealed carry and where. The law in this area is highly variable, changing even from city to city.
I didn't claim it had anything to do with owning a firearm. You either misunderstood my comment or are deliberately trying to pretend I don't understand the law.
"The teachers are getting additional vetting (to carry within a school) that could be effective and appropriate for all gun owners, but they get a pass"
Well okay, that's a perfectly valid opinion but it's not the one you originally stated, even if you didn't mean to. They're both valid opinions actually, it's just that the distinction between the two is important because we're dealing with the law, where details matter.
Speaking of which, I must re-emphasize, "they get a pass" really depends on the state and city, but even in the most permissive jurisdictions there's still limits on who can carry or concealed carry and where.
