morphballganon ,

It doesn't happen on its own. People have to make it so. However, what some people view as good results in what others view as bad.

Some might see universal health care as good, where others see profits as good. These are in opposition.

Unfortunately, the people who see profits as good tend to have more disposable resources and more effective propaganda than people who see universal health care as good.

RBWells ,

Can? Yes, absolutely.

Will? Probably not.

rekabis ,

Good cannot flourish while greed does.

Capitalism cannot exist without extensive, institutionalized greed.

Linkerbaan ,
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It's more of an ever ongoing battle than a decisive victory.

intensely_human ,

Obviously. I mean look around you. You think any of this would be possible if evil were more powerful? I’m talking the clothes, the lights, the shelter, the food, the relative safety, the infrastructure, the language, the libraries of entertainment and knowledge. How about the open source software we’re using right now to communicate, and the fantastic technology that’s running it?

It’s all evidence of the power of Good

Mastengwe ,

Agreed.

riodoro1 ,

The clothes is the first thing you listed and that’s funny because they are a product of sweatshops exploiting people from the poorest parts of this planet consuming insane amounts of potable water to make and 40% of them are sent to landfills never ever being worn.

intensely_human ,

If it’s not slave labor, ie if the people are there by choice, then that “sweatshop” is a job those people find preferable to all the other ways they can spend their days. In other words, a step up. I have no problem with sending my money overseas to people for whom it is more valuable, for whom it has more purchasing power.

riodoro1 ,

is a job those people find preferable to all the other ways they can spend their days

Like dying of hunger. Do you think garbage collectors in our society chose this career path?

AsherahTheEnd ,

You are attempting to justify exploitation and it disgusts me.

Spacehooks ,

what does prevail entail?

lseif ,

i hope not a snail... lets not go down that trail.

Adderbox76 ,

No. I believe we are likely witnessing the inevitable answer to the drake equation.

The same lizard-brain instincts that allowed our ancestors to survive (competition, resource hoarding, power centralisation) are fundamentally self destructive to that same society as it approaches post-scarcity capability.

In other words, when you have a society that evolved on selfishness and power imbalances, potential post-scarcity will always see those in power try to artificially create scarcity in order to remain in power.

I used to think we could rise above our baser selfishness when the time came. Now I don't believe we will, nor that its even likely possible.

That lizard-brain instinct to protect what's "yours" at the expense of everyone else is what got our civilization here in a resource poor world, and will cheerfully destroy it in order to maintain that scarcity for the sake of some.

Linkerbaan ,
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Evil empires are nothing new. The have came and went as long as humanity has existed.

Bizarroland ,
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Yeah. The good in humankind is the reason why we're not currently rioting in the streets.

The goodness is holding out hope that our innermost desires for what's best for ourselves and for the future of humanity will win over the short term narrow-minded greed that is currently ruining everything.

What did not good doesn't know is that the good has already won, and if the not good does not concede defeat soon enough the good will strike with righteous and ignition and a fury that cannot be abated short of blood.

Boiglenoight ,

Yes.

B4tid0 ,
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I want to believe.
I don't know what to expect but I am try and hopes other too. I believe we all want to be happy , I hope we all figure out.
Either way we die at the end.

Kolanaki ,
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If it could, it would have by now.

guyrocket ,
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Mostly no.

We're going after the rails on a crazy train.

chicken ,

Maybe, but I think it is possible that at some point it could become permanently too late for that. If your every move is tracked, if your thoughts and actions are all anticipated and directed, if automated systems can silence or kill anyone, we can lose all possible agency. If the entities retaining agency find a way to be sustainable and stable, things can stay that way indefinitely. People often seem to think that we'll always get another chance, and given enough time things may change, but I think it is very likely that we will lose, with finality.

pb42184 ,

Every time except one

Churbleyimyam ,

I do. But I think we all have to make an effort. Which sucks but we just got to get on with it. Some stuff about our lives is good because others sacrificed for it in the past and some things are bad because we haven't yet fought for it properly. Good vs Evil etc. Life is uncomfortable buddy, because it is currently imperfect and probably always will be. You have to stay in the fight though, otherwise it will definitely be lost.

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