It recently struck me recently that a number of users mostly scroll the All feed. This came up in a conversation where people were discussing how their main usage of lemmy was to scroll All and then rely entirely on blocking to refine their feed....
while i don't have any specific opinions about this that other people haven't addressed, i just want to flag up something;
How this could be enforced? No voting from the All and/or Local feed. Seems easy and straight forward.
this seems unenforcable. as in, you can't really tell where someone discovered a post from. yeah you can just remove the buttons from those views clientside and it'll probably work for the majority of cases, but alternate clients or modifications to lemmy-ui can simply put the buttons back in (or in cases of unmaintained or differently opinionated clients, just not remove the buttons at all). the backend can't really differentiate which view a vote comes from. federation especially can't differentiate which view a vote comes from.
and nyaizes your text so all your "na"s end up "nya"s. western forks like firefish/iceshrimp/sharkey have that separate from the cat ears toggle but honestly why would you disable that?
this is how it starts. first you open one for your cat as a joke and next thing you know you're going meow meow :3 nyaaa~~ at people online and suddenly social media starts makign sense
[alt: "lebron james reportedly forgot to align his floor vertices" in the style of a clickbait instagram post. on the left is lebron james, crying, on the right is a screenshot from pannenkoek's recent invisible walls video]
(vanilla) mastodon does not have markdown, and content from other instances (marked up or not) get transmitted as HTML over the wire (and the mastodon API serves sanitized HTML to apps).
mastodon forks like glitch, and clones of the mastodon API like those on pleroma/akkoma and iceshrimp do serve the markdown source AFAIK, but unless OP's looking to... idk, support MFM (which, on a non-web app would be difficult) I don't really see the point in that.
Look into opening an account on an Iceshrimp instance like https://fedia.social, or an Akkoma instance like http://pleroma.envs.net. Their APIs are an extension on top of the Mastodon APIs (and both support Markdown and should expose them to apps). Sharkey also has some Mastodon API compatibility but it's quite broken and might require some odd workarounds to get stuff working.
That said, for rich text, parsing the HTML will be more than enough for nearly all cases.
From news, to shitposting, to memes, to more shitposting, Lemmy feels vibrant, active, lighthearted, fun and even powerful. Mastodon feels like a fucking funeral.
In my experience, once when you find your way into the correct circles the microblog-verse makes the "shitposting" of Lemmy look like r/memes. I do agree that discoverability could be better though, it took me 4-5 months before I got the hang of it. And now I barely check Lemmy despite my Lemmy account being older than my earliest microblog account (under this name, anyway).
One important thing is that your instance matters quite a bit more than here. Starting on a large general purpose instance (especially if it's mastodon.social) and just following Large Accounts and Nobody Else like most people recommend for some reason is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Instead, get on a smaller interest-specific instance (rule of thumb: the weirder the domain the better your experience will be!) and follow the local timeline (and on good software, the bubble/recommended timelines). And post stuff/interact with people. Don't be that one person that does nothing but boost news bots and occasionally butt into replies of people asking rhetorical questions they already know the answer for.
(Perhaps Lemmy is better at news or whatever, I wouldn't know as I block all news communities I can find -- I just don't see the point as all the discussion around most news ends up predictable, unproductive (not that internet communities necessarily need to be "productive"), and unnecessarily angry)
Also in a world with usable™ Misskey forks and Akkoma I think the limitations of Mastodon the software are really starting to show, and I urge anyone who's been disappointed in Mastodon to try other microblog software. (Quotes are already a thing if you know where to look! So are emoji reactions, because people have more emotions than :star:)
mastodon doesn’t “discover” akkoma content and won’t show anything unless you’re following a user from there, which kinda sucks.
I mean -- that's how all of them work. Even Lemmy. Unless your instance administrator joins relays (which have tradeoffs between privacy / effectiveness of blocking) your instance is only ever aware of posts from followed people (and reply threads followed people are involved in)
(also MUCH lighter on server resources, compared to most other twitter-like alternatives)
Mastodon is just unusually heavy, really. Even Misskey & forks are lighter than Masto on the server side (preferring being bloated on the client instead)
[id: the sharkey mascot but with the deal with it glasses, a giant blunt, you know i had to do it to them hands and lightning mcqueen crocs poorly edited on top]
I'm just throwing this out there but having the default sort incentivize comments seems like it'd highlight posts meant to cause flame wars... Is that what we want out of this platform?
What I'm more worried about are posts relating to news mainly. Where even if the immediate first level comments are fine, there are threads that get out of hand really quickly.
I agree that while posts inherently designed to be controversial may not benefit from Active considering the influences voting has (though me being on an instance that has downvotes disabled may be influencing my view here!), Active may make it significantly easier for an otherwise innocent post to devolve into a flame war.
the 0.19 implementation is so half-assed I genuinely think the Lemmy devs just don't want that functionality but expected quite a lot of backlash if they outright said as much, so they decided to implement something that ticks the box in the "wanted features" list without having any effect
afaik it only blocks communities and explicitly let's users from blocked instances through
(talking about microblog fedi here, Lemmy/threadiverse is it's own thing)
don't do hashtags. hashtags (especially common ones like #memes) are overrun by repost bots and low quality garbage.
the trick is to be on a small-to-medium instance you vibe with (1k active users seems to be the sweet spot. anything larger than 2k I'd avoid. do NOT join any flagship instances like mastodon.social), follow fun people from your local timeline, and see who they boost. and follow up the boost chain until your timeline is sufficiently fun.
FYI misskey does not implement the masto api. some software like pleroma/akkoma, gotosocial and yes, a few misskey forks do (in various states of brokenness, with iceshrimp being the most compliant one) but misskey itself does not.
The link goes to this users Mastodon post on the subject. I'm going to copy part of the text of his post without having to post the Threads post they were shown. Click through if you want to see for yourself, avoid if such things are upsetting to you....
I'm not entirely sure if such an instance exists, but just letting you know that in case you can't find any, a reasonable compromise would be to join an instance that's enforcing authorized fetch (and is blocking threads)
this will make it harder for facebook to read your data through federation alone (i.e. even if a post of yours get boosted by someone with followers from threads, it won't "leak" there)
there are ways to bypass this of course but if facebook is found to do something of that sort they would out themselves as actively malicious which would definitely get a reaction even from the "wait and see" crew
mastodon implements it, pleroma/akkoma probably implements it, pixelfed implements it, firefish and iceshrimp implement it (sharkey has a PR implementing it opened just today), gotosocial not only implements it but enforces it, with no ability to turn it off
notably, none of the threadiverse software implement it, and no software other than the aforementioned gotosocial enable it by default.
mastodon.social sends a single federation activity to www.threads.net's sharedInbox. threads's internal systems handle all the visibility and routing to followed users and whatnot. the same thing happens in the opposite direction for threads->mastodon (or whoever).
now in theory this is an optional part of the specification and you can in fact send one activity per person if you really want to, but considering how widespread it is (and how relatively easy it is to implement) you'd have to be intentionally and explicitly malicious to not use a sharedInbox if the remote server indicates it supports it.
i have attempted to build my own federated stuff (none of them actually federated "in real life" though) so i did read the specs but quite a lot of these are from my memory and if there's anything i know is that my memory fuckin sucks lol
you can disable the webpage and unauthorized API if you so choose. mastodon and pleroma/akkoma provide these settings. gotosocial hides all posts with an unlisted visibility from public pages.
authorized fetch only provides protection for activitypub, it's just a single component of a layered stack of protection you can enable depending on your exact threat model.
the privacy threat model of Lemmy is significantly different from a microblog, which is the current target of threads.
(also have none of you heard of consent?)
cc @FaceDeer this reply also applies to your reply
I used to think that there would be 1, main 'Fediverse' with all of the 'big instances' connected to each other. The recent Threads debacle has shown me otherwise....
re active users: they're a large open registration instance, they likely have a fair chunk of twitter people who joined during one of the many migrations and decided not to stick around.
if you were to focus this on just Lemmy itself as opposed to the wider fedi ("Especially given that there was just an update allowing for individuals to block instances they don't like" implies that's the case) you already have nothing to worry about as you encountering a threads user here will be even slimmer than encountering a mastodon user.
threads is primarily targeting the microblog/personal side of fedi. the incentives and privacy expectations are quite different compared to this side of fedi
Community Boundaries and the All feed
It recently struck me recently that a number of users mostly scroll the All feed. This came up in a conversation where people were discussing how their main usage of lemmy was to scroll All and then rely entirely on blocking to refine their feed....
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This entire community is becoming a shitshow.
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From news, to shitposting, to memes, to more shitposting, Lemmy feels vibrant, active, lighthearted, fun and even powerful. Mastodon feels like a fucking funeral.
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[id: the sharkey mascot but with the deal with it glasses, a giant blunt, you know i had to do it to them hands and lightning mcqueen crocs poorly edited on top]
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