PSA: Be careful when travelling to Germany, especially in Bavaria ( lemmy.ml )

You can check where you are allowed to consume in public on this website (click the button saying "Verstanden, zeig mir die Karte!", you are agreeing to a no warranty disclaimer): https://bubatzkarte.de

The regulations don't apply to private spaces and only when in sight of the protected locality in the centre of the red circles.

And there are other regulations, so many other regulations...

But hey, I can at least legally consume in the privacy of my own home now, so I got that going for me, which is nice.

Gladaed ,

You should read this map mindfully: Outside of the Red it is fine to consume.
Inside the red areas you may consume it if you are outside of the sightline of kindergartens, schools, and playgrounds etc.

ImFresh3x ,
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‘Legal’ weed usually just means huge taxes and big business oligopoly, also low quality.

Kwdg ,

Not (yet) in germany. Currently possession and growing your own stuff, in certain quantaties, is allowed but you can not buy it legally yet. Starting from july there will be social clubs which can sell to members but only without making a profit.

empireOfLove2 ,
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can't relate. live in oregon, prerolls of decent quality can be had for $2.50 or less, and full ounces of flower can be had for under $100 pretty regularly. also it's all lab tested and given a label with THC/CBD levels so you know what you're getting

i mean yeah the big business oligopoly is absolutely a problem, but legal weed has actually just led to so fucking much being grown in professionally controlled environments that the price has fallen through the floor even after taxes and the quality has never been better.

southsamurai ,
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Eh, I used to smoke cigarettes. It's the same thing, really. If what someone chooses to do to their body goes beyond that body, it's perfectly acceptable to limit whether it can be done. Same when it causes undue risk (like driving and being impaired).

But, does this apply to edibles, or only smoking/vape? If it is trying to bar being high, it's pretty damn stupid.

Muehe OP ,

The outdoors ban only applies "within sight of or less than 100m away from" places where children might gather, like schools, playgrounds, and so forth, with the idea being preventing them from suffering passive consumption. Which I wouldn't have any problem with if it were applied equally to tobacco and other inhalants as well by the way, but it isn't. Plus as you might see on the image (if I didn't fuck up my resolution too bad) this means that virtually more than half of down-town Berlin is off limits if you want to be on the safe side.

The law says "consumption of cannabis" by the way, so yeah, technically edibles are out too...

southsamurai ,
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That's pretty crappy then. It doesn't benefit anyone, and imposes pointless restrictions on people just enjoying life.

If they're not covering everything inhaled like that, it's a dumb ban. Very dumb.

Turun ,

No one is gonna catch you if you eat some cake in public. So while it technically applies to edibles too, in practice it doesn't.

And yeah, cities have a lot of people and a lot of children, no shit.

Diplomjodler3 ,

Drop that cake and nobody needs to get hurt, perp!

Muehe OP ,

So while it technically applies to edibles too, in practice it doesn’t.

Well it does, if you are stupid enough to be open about it towards a cop. So good to know anyway.

And yeah, cities have a lot of people and a lot of children, no shit.

And like I said, I'd even be fine with that if it was equally applied to anything you smoke. But the ban doesn't include tobacco, doesn't even refer to smoking at all in fact, and in its current form essentially bans public consumption for entire neighbourhoods. So I would posit there is some room for improvement.

Kwdg ,

Isn't it "within sight of and less then 100m"? Which makes bubatzkarte more of a worst case scenario

Muehe OP ,

Yeah I worded that badly. It's allowed if you are in the line of sight of a protected locality but more than 100m away. The law specifically states line of sight means less than 100m.

Sakychu ,

You can legally consume in privacy if nobody complains and you don't happen to live in sight of a school or other protected buildings lol

Muehe OP ,

Well please correct me if I'm wrong here, but to my knowledge consumption in private is just entirely unregulated. If you have a house right next to a kindergarten you could consume in there at any time. The part of the law I looked at (§5 KCanG) beyond public consumption just regulates consumption in the "immediate" presence of minors and on military bases.

SpruceBringsteen ,

boof it

glimse ,

This feels a liiiittttle too serious for weedtime lol

Muehe OP ,

Yeah... Wasn't too sure about rule 4, lol. Sorry.

glimse ,

No big deal I was just surprised to see something other than goofy weed memes here

FrostyTrichs ,
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Goofy weed memes you say..... Be back shortly.

glimse ,

That's what I'm talkin bouttttt

liam070 ,
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Bavaria is weedlovers no-go area. Got a joint there , Lebowski? That's a very big fine, thank you very much!

Muehe OP ,

Maybe not quite that bad, like they still have to apply the federal law, meaning possession and private consumption are still legal and there is nothing much they can do about that. But I wouldn't recommend it without knowing what you can and cannot do very precisely. They will certainly push the boundaries. Just don't consume publicly in Bavaria.

Rest of Germany should be fine if you use the bubatzkarte and don't have more than 25g (~0.88 ounces).

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