maynarkh ,

Always has been.

IvanOverdrive ,

I post Contra Chrome every time Chrome and spyware are mentioned, but I'll post it here again.

LifeOfChance ,

I switched to Firefox and using DDG as my search engine about 2m ago and I'll be honest I really don't care for it. I'm trying my best but I use my phone for 100% of my browsing and not being able to set a home page sucks and with DDG searching for stuff takes significantly longer to get answers with. I search for a ton of stuff that I just need a quick answer to that when searching for Google would just show the answer instead of needing to open links and such. I'm giving it a bit more time but I'll probably end up back with chrome.

pathief ,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Try the startpage search engine. It has been much better for me than DDG.

Firefox allows you to select a home page, tho? Not sure what your problem with Firefox is.

stagen ,
@stagen@feddit.dk avatar

On android firefox just doesn't perform so well as Chrome does and can seem slow and buggy.

pathief ,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Firefox on Android allows you to install uBlock Origin. That alone is a major improvement over Chrome.

You can also try out Vivaldi, which is based on Chrome and also has a built in ad blocker. I don't think you can install uBlock Origin on Android tho...

n3m37h ,

User error, most people dont like change either

LifeOfChance ,

How do I do a home page? When I couldn't figure it out I searched online and it said on android you can't.

pathief ,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

It's my bad, I didn't realize you were talking about the android version. Maybe an extension can do it?

gunpachi ,

IMHO, people in corporations should acknowledge that there is a growing user base for Firefox and give it as much priority as chrome. That way people in an organization can at least explore a different browser than chrome (especially the non-tech folks).

The reality is that companies test all their websites in Chrome. Any automation testing will also be focused on Chrome and Safari. Also majority of the developers use Chrome dev tools for debugging. I don't see that changing anytime soon. I feel that Firefox is like a second class citizen in their book.

But hey, that might be a good thing too. All the tracking B.S will be developed for chrome and We can continue to enjoy privacy with good old firefox.

pathief ,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

Our automation tests run on Firefox on odd days and on Chrome on even days. I don't think it ever made a difference, tho. It's getting harder to create bugs that are specific to Firefox or Chrome. Safari, on the other hand, is a fucking mess.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I've been using Firefox since somewhere around 2008, it's been a dream the whole time.

Highly recommended

KillingTimeItself ,

still waiting for anything that isnt mozilla or google based.

Thorium, oh good another chrome browser
librewolf, oh good another firefox browser

PLEASE I BEG OF YOU, GIVE ME SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TAINTED.

rekabis ,

I have been using the same web browser, in terms of codebase, ideology, and heritage, since 1993.

That’s almost a third of a century.

EarMaster ,

I have switched to Firefox but I'm having a hard time. Firefox feels sluggish compared to Chrome and uses an insane amount of memory. And I really miss tab groups as Chrome had them. There are some add-ons for Firefox that try to imitate this feature but none of them has everything I want (e.g. the ability to collapse a group in the top tab bar). And most of them build on top of Firefox tab groups which come with an isolation feature I don't want (and haven't found a way to disable for tab groups).

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

All you said plus Firefox's rendering looks like total crap. Maybe you would like ungoogled-chromium?

And... for what's worth Firefox is a privacy nightmare as well, just start Wireshark and launch the browser to see what it does. LibreWolf or ungoogled-chromium always.

AProfessional ,

Can you share a screenshot? I’ve used both browsers almost every day of my life since they released. They render the web very similar for me.

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

No they don't. Firefox renders fonts differently from Chrome and ruins the web experience for me ahha

Jramskov ,

In what way is Firefox a privacy nightmare?

TCB13 ,
@TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

Again just start Wireshark and launch the browser to see what it does.

stratosfear ,

My experience has been the opposite. I will have far too many tabs and windows open and with Chrome I would often see memory usage over 10gb. And on more than one occasion I'd have to end task on chrome as it was locking or already locked up.

Switched [back] to Firefox in the last year or two, same plugins, no change in behavior, and it never locks up. Memory usage is fine. Right now with just as many windows and tabs open it's using 5gb ram.

Chrome has been uninstalled from my PC.

And the tab containers plugin from Mozilla is really incredible.

EarMaster ,

I like the idea of tab isolation, but I don't want to be forced to use it for every tab group. I want to use tab groups to organize my tabs because I have way too many of them open at the same time. I often create tab groups on the fly just to keep things organized. I don't want to login into every account once I decide I need a new tab group.

stratosfear ,

I agree the tab containers are pretty specific use cases. It's invaluable for AWS. If I still used Facebook it would be great to keep that isolated from all the other sites that share data with it. I like to use it for banking which is done very specifically. Otherwise yeah everything remains in the non-container tab.

And I was not saying the containers relate to memory usage.

Phegan ,

Waterfox baby.

ktowner15 ,

Firefox main since 2020. Love it.

mariusafa ,

Google in general is ass. That also includes your googled phones.

phourniner ,

Vivaldi user since 2015. Never looked back.

Sanyanov ,

Firefox user since ever. Never looked anywhere.

rekabis ,

Vivaldi is Chromium under the hood.

phourniner ,

I know that, they have always been about privacy, and they are taking a stance against Google's changes.

YeeHawSeeSaw ,

So my gut instinct is to go to Firefox (again), but how can it compete? It’s down to like 2% market share, there’s a serious portion of the web that Firefox just can’t render anymore, and there’s all this press about the CEO getting this monsterous golden parachute.

So realistically what can anyone do but continue to use the only browser people ever really test sites for anymore, or swear allegiance to either Microsoft or Apple?

Soggy ,

I've been using Firefox exclusively for close to twenty years now and non-compatible websites are extremely rare. I'm sure there are industry-specific shortcomings but for general usage it's always been acceptable at worst. And its market share is close to 7%.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I've only encountered 2 websites that didn't work properly in Firefox and it was only intermittently

Those 2 were Google Play Music and YouTube Music, and both were fixed within a few days. Basically it worked fine, then something broke, then Firefox patched and it worked again.

It was also right around the time Google Play Music was set to die.

priapus ,

Firefox can always compete, because if it ever stopped existing Google would have an antitrust case on their hands. For the same reason, Google cannot violate web standards, like what has happened in previous browser wars.

I don't agree that Firefox is unable to render a portion of the web, I've been using it for years and have never once run into a website that had a problem with my browser. I thought once that studentaid.gov did, but that turned out to be a problem with extensions. I've seen more websites that have issues with me using Linux than with Firefox.

kilowatt ,

Firefox is the way. Or Librefox, Mullvad browser, Waterfox, Floorp…

randomaside ,
@randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

The one feature that I really liked that's still in chromium other than Google cast is still Web Apps.

I like to be able to make a desktop application out of a web page. Firefox has this feature with PRISM a while back. Did it ever come back?

End0fLine ,
@End0fLine@startrek.website avatar

I do believe there is either a flag or an add on that gives you this option again. I haven’t used it in a while so don’t quote me on that.

Found it. It is an add on.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/

isVeryLoud ,
@isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca avatar

The add-on is pretty hacky in my experience. I want native PWA support.

MariaRomanov ,

For casting, you can use VLC Media Player.

thedeadwalking4242 ,

Yes

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